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#1 July 19, 2012 11:51:46

VanIsleGal
From: Victoria, BC
Registered: 2012-04-04
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Liver Function

I am getting concerned about my liver function. It has never been tested after 3 times with Graves' taking Tapazole. Now I am on 40mg and have been for 6 weeks. I think I will go to a walk in clinic tomorrow and ask for the test. I am starting to wonder if my endocrinologist is doing his job 100%? Thoughts?

Thanks for the support. This is one great forum!

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#2 July 19, 2012 13:14:46

adenure
Registered: 2012-03-22
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Liver Function

Hi!

40 mg. is quite a lot, but from what I've read, a lot of doctors tend to wait to see if a patient develops symptoms of liver problems instead of ordering tests. Dark urine, yellowing skin/ eyes, fever, sore throat are symptoms. Knowing my tendency to be sensitive to medication, I asked my endo. to order the liver panel when I was on methimazole (only 5 mg.). I had no symptoms and had only been on it for 7 weeks. He said he had only seen liver issues once or twice in his 12 years of practice. Yet, there I was with liver enzymes 8 times the normal range 7 weeks later! I stopped the meds. that night obviously. 3 days later my enzymes were retested and they were coming down & eventually, they were totally normal once again. My baseline was normal before methimazole, so it wasn't from being hyper at all. I would get the lab done if you can- just for your peace of mind anyway. You're probably fine as liver issues are not common, but why wonder about it when you can know with a blood test? Especially at a high dose, I would do it.

Alexis


Alexis

Homeschooling mom to 4 wonderful boys!
Diagnosed with Graves Disease after my 4th baby- March 2012
Started on 5 mg. of methimazole daily for 7 weeks
Euthyroid at the end of those 7 weeks, but had to stop methimazole as liver enzymes were 8 times normal range.
Total Thyroidectomy- 6/15/12
Started Synthroid (brand name) 100 mcg. 2nd day after surgery for 6 weeks (TSH: 6.35 & free T4 in upper range and T3 just under mid- range).
Upped Synthroid to 112 mcg. 7/27/12
Euthyroid as of 8/10/12 on 112 mcg. Synthroid (TSH .79 and free T4 in upper range).

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#3 July 19, 2012 13:30:06

VanIsleGal
From: Victoria, BC
Registered: 2012-04-04
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Liver Function

Thanks Alexis! I am going to the doctor today. I will be far from home soon and don't want to have concerns while away! I am on my 3rd endocrinologist and haven't been happy with any of them. I am starting to wonder about specialists! I have kidney problems so I have dark urine regularly. I don't have the other symptoms. I got hepatitis when my pancreas was blocked by a gall stone. I don't have yellow eyes now though.

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#4 July 19, 2012 17:41:04

Kimberly
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From: Phoenix, AZ
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Liver Function

VanIsle Gal - As Alexis said, there is actually some controversy over this. The latest guidance from the American Thyroid Association and American Association of Clinical Endocrinologists actually recommends testing only when patients are symptomatic, rather than as a routine measure.

However, my own doc does order liver function tests every time I have a blood draw done…I guess she figures it's better to err on the side of caution!


Kimberly
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#5 July 19, 2012 20:52:12

VanIsleGal
From: Victoria, BC
Registered: 2012-04-04
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Liver Function

Thanks Kimberly!

My liver function results are all normal!

So happy! I always get my blood results online in about 3 hours!

Nice that I never have to wait or have to call my doctor every month.

xoxo



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#6 July 19, 2012 21:15:13

adenure
Registered: 2012-03-22
Posts: 438
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Liver Function

YAY! Lucky girl It's always good to have one's mind put at ease!

Alexis


Alexis

Homeschooling mom to 4 wonderful boys!
Diagnosed with Graves Disease after my 4th baby- March 2012
Started on 5 mg. of methimazole daily for 7 weeks
Euthyroid at the end of those 7 weeks, but had to stop methimazole as liver enzymes were 8 times normal range.
Total Thyroidectomy- 6/15/12
Started Synthroid (brand name) 100 mcg. 2nd day after surgery for 6 weeks (TSH: 6.35 & free T4 in upper range and T3 just under mid- range).
Upped Synthroid to 112 mcg. 7/27/12
Euthyroid as of 8/10/12 on 112 mcg. Synthroid (TSH .79 and free T4 in upper range).

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#7 July 21, 2012 10:22:48

sparerib
Registered: 2010-11-24
Posts: 15
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Liver Function

Hi VanIsleGal, I have been on PTU for just over 2 years. Presently I am taking 150mg a day. I got headaches from Tapazole, for some reason, but I tolerate the PTU well and my thyroid levels are all within normal range except for thyroid immune globulin, which is being addressed. I see my endo every 2 months and he does a panoply of blood tests including liver function. However, I have to remind him about a number of things like testing the immune globulin 4 times a year, updates on ultrasound to see if the size of the nodules is increasing or decreasing or staying the same etc.

I request a copy of my blood work before I go into the treatment room so I can follow along with him as he reviews it with me. Then I copy it and send it to my primary care doc. She is very on the ball and will tell me if there is something else that needs to be done and she would order it for me if need be. You might try that route.

At Kaiser, everything is digital so your primary care doc can easily access the labs and you can discuss your interest in the liver function test and probably get it thru your PCP and not have to pay for it yourself. My housemate works for Kaiser and assures me this is true.

It is also possible that 7 weeks is way too soon for any problem to show up and maybe that is why the doc is waiting. You might ask that the next time you get labs. I hope this is helpful.

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#8 July 24, 2012 09:34:31

Carito71
Registered: 2012-06-25
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Liver Function

I have had liver labs done several times since I started taking the Methimazole 30mg/day 6 weeks ago. I get it tested again in 2 weeks. I guess my Dr. too rather err on the side of caution. He is also asking for a WBC. My liver #s were high before starting the Rx b/c of being hyper. They went down on their own only on a beta blocker. Last time they were checked they were still a little bit elevated but my Dr. was not concerned.

Just as an FYI - Another sign of liver problem is acholic stools (light color stool).

I'm glad your liver panel was normal.



~ Fellow GD patient diagnosed June 2012 with a non-existent TSH, elevated fT3 and fT4, and a TSI of 4.5. On Methimazole 30mg/day for the first 8 weeks. On Methimazole 10mg/day for the next 6 weeks. On Methimazole 5mg/day for a week and a half. On Methimazole 5mg every 4 days for a month. On Methimazole 2.5mg/day starting Nov 15. Current labs show a normal fT4, a normal TSH, and a TSI of 3.2. Diet: Gluten and yeast free. Love to read and learn. Very interested in the immune part of GD ~

Edited Carito71 (July 24, 2012 09:34:58)

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